#spn s13 predictions

[kidwithoutcustody]

im on spn s13 e21 and oh my god is this show so predictable, literally me and my mom can figure out everything sam and dean say 

[storm-and-starlight]

Episode 2: Raising Hell

Sam, Dean, Ketch, Rowena, and Belphegor come up with a plan to suck all the ghost souls into a crystal like the one they used in s11 as a bomb, and it turns out that Kevin made it out of the gate to Hell as well, since apparently God stuck him down in Hell rather than in Heaven like he said (probably to make a point about him being Evil now). The soul-catcher works, and Kevin leaves to go become a wandering ghost instead of going back to Hell because for whatever reason souls from Hell can't go to Heaven, and now Sam and Dean and Rowena all have to find out how to close the gate.

This is by and large a litany of complaints about the setting of the first two episodes, and I'll get the stuff I kind of liked later. So! 1.) all the ghosts are supposed to be old-timey evil figures, which means they're all in  weird Victorian-esque costumes, and it feels too over the top and costume-y. 2.) All the action takes place in broad daylight on a suburban street, so you run into well-lit ghosts in well-lit costumes and it doesn't look like a horror movie it looks like a bad play. It's too obvious that it's fake. 3.) I'm also not entirely sure how I feel about placing God as the main villain -- it's undoubtedly very much in the line how SPN does meta, but something about the transition to God-as-villain just doesn't quite work out. 4.) All in all, a lot of the episode just feels... either kind of phoned in, or fakey, or predictable? There's no actual horror, and it doesn't feel like any of the stakes even matter anymore (not that there were even really any stakes at all in this one). But all that being said, Calvert is still killing it at playing Belphegor, Sam and Dean are surprisingly in-character and it's very fun to see, Rowena has fully completed her character arc to the light side, and it's wonderful to see Osric Chau as Kevin Tran again (and yes, technically he did show up in s13 but 1.) he was Apocalypse!Kevin, not our Kevin, and 2.) I didn't watch any of those episodes anyways).

Final thoughts: I liked a lot of the individual character moments, but the overall setting wasn't all that great.

Supernatural Season 15 Rewatch

Ep. 1: Back and To The Future

Ep. 2: Raising Hell

Ep 3: The Rupture

Ep. 7: Last Call

Ep. 13: Destiny's Child

Ep. 15: Gimme Shelter

Ep. 18: Despair

(No I am not watching the finale because despite how much I've been bitching about the quality of the episodes on this rewatch I am still only watching the ones I think I will actually enjoy and Despair is an exception because. well. we all know why.)

[buggeredson-a]

This isn't a meme but what's your opinion on the show being renewed for a 13th season?

Mun-Directed Questions About Roleplaying!

Post-Writing Edit: I won’t put this under a cut. I’m going to be honest. And it’s a hurtful kind of honesty. You might want to consider passing on.

[ I’m just gonna link the meme anyway, since it’s kinda what I’m guessing prompted this question. ;)

I actually have really mixed feelings about going into S13. Part of me wants to see more of S12 before I make a call on it–I’m only up to E3–but the other part of me…kinda knows what call I’m gonna make already, because it’s the same call I made for S8. And S9. And S10. And S11. And S12.

Why is this show still on-air?

Now, I don’t mean that as insult: I mean that as a genuine question. I know I’m not one of the people keeping ratings up. I have maybe two people out of everyone I know who are only maybe, maybe, playing into those ratings. So who is still watching? The show hasn’t been fresh in a while. The formula is still the same.

Last Season ends on a major event, either character death, disappearance, or game-changing revelation; New Season picks up with whoever out of the Boys wasn’t involved in the Last Season event trying to correct the situation; partial resolution by Episode 4 AT THE OUTSIDE, when the Boys are all together again in some way, shape, or form; major event is mostly dealt with by the beginning of Episode 9 and New Event is brewing to end the New Season; every fucking moment of this event will be very painfully drawn out by the same unoriginal trope of the Boys not communicating fully with one another and acting more like teenaged edgelord piss-babies than fucking 40-year old men, which they are even canonically at this point.

Where I am in S12, Dean’s just said he’s 37. He and Sam and certainly Cas are too old to keep getting jerked along by the same plot devices used in subpar Pre-/Adolescent Fiction. It was cute for a season–now we’ve had at least seven, going on eight seasons of it.

But here’s the thing. I’m not willing to condemn Season 13 just yet.

Not because I expect the writing to turn around and give us a plot that doesn’t rely on more bullshit lies, half-truths, and miscommunications, but because I’ve seen the trend in other areas. Frankly, the Boys are fucked. They’ve been fucked for several seasons by now. They’re not going to get the same kind of character development they used to get, like when Cas had to decide if humanity meant enough to him to disobey Heaven and protect the Winchesters and Earth, or when Sam had to decide FOR THE FIRST TIME–the impactful time–if his life was worth the lives of everyone on the planet, or when Dean had to learn–for the first time again, for the only time it felt meaningful–that sometimes winning the war can mean losing a piece of yourself. No, they’re going to get more hissy fits, more manpain, more angst, and maybe, hopefully, something smaller and cool and meaningful that the fans can give proper weight to–like LuciCase, like Sam finally realizing that he’s okay with hunting, like Deanmon.

I stopped watching the show for the Boys a long time ago.

But do you know what this show does better than anything else, what I’m willing to give Season 13 a chance on again, what I’m waiting to see develop?

Those secondary characters. Bobby. Crowley. Jo. Ellen. Jody. Kevin. Linda. Charlie. Donna. Claire. Krissy. Billie. The recurring characters, the ones who came back episode after episode, who were fun and funny and well-written. Five of those are dead and will hopefully remain so–because I think we can all agree that ghost!Bobby was as unnecessary as it was hurtful, and that it disrespected a character we all loved. At least one of those has fallen into the same awful hole as the Boys, where all the character development has run together and given up and become horrible and repetitive and wishy-washy and just keeps happening, no matter how often “a lesson is learned” and they express–verbally–that they won’t fall into the same trap again.

You know what I want? I want a new secondary character. I want a woman. I want her to be a badass and I don’t want her to have a romance with any of the Big Four. I don’t want her to have a romance at all, but I’ll settle for her having a romance with someone off-screen or unrelated to the show’s events. I want her to be witty. I want her to be a badass. But above all, I want her to be unique, and if she must die, I want her death to be about her, not about the Boys.I want her to be reluctant, like Kevin.I want her to call the Boys out on their bullshit, like Bobby.I want her to be hardcore, like Krissy, but soft, like Jody.

I’m not going to get her. I wouldn’t get her even if she was a he instead.

But I know I’m going to get SOMEone, someone beyond my wildest dreams, someone WONDERFUL, and that someone is going to be the whole reason Season 13 is watchable, enjoyable, pleasant.

So there’s my two cents on the hot-button topic. To say I’m critical is fair–to say I’m hypocritical, on some level, is also fair. But in reality: I’m passionate. And I’m pissed-off because I was promised better going into the show, I was promised better with every season of this show, and even when things didn’t get better, I hell, THE WHOLE FANDOM, deserves better. ]

[zolaliz]

I know everyone's hoping for a lot of destiel next episode

But honestly I'd find it hilarious if the Winchester brothers both got enamoured with witch sisters. And I say this as a HUGE destiel engame fan. I just, I guess my expectations are pretty low- I don't want to get my hopes up. Trust me I'm all for Cas/the-witch-Dean's-in-love-with parallels (as in Dean treating them similarly or whatever), but I doubt they'd take that route- it's not comical enough. As for Cas breaking the spell, that's more likely, but probably won't be explicitly shown or stated- if anything it'd be left up for interpretation, as always. Again, I'm fine with that; I'm trying to be realistic. The feel for next episode based on the trailer is that it's going to be humourous and light hearted, so I'm not expecting anything different. But hey, the boldness and textual-ness of destiel has already surprised me this season- maybe it'll continue to do so.

[queerwolf79]

How I’d Like to See the Hug go down.

When Castiel first appears, Dean scoffs in disdain. Fuck whatever creature thought this would be even a little bit funny. He charges forward, feeling a sense of deja vu as he plunges Ruby’s dagger into the imposter’s chest cavity.

Before Dean can release his grip on the blade, his eyes widening in surprise, Cas closes his hand over Dean’s and gently guides his hand to pull the blade out, together.

Cas releases his grip on Dean’s hand and the blade tumbles to the ground with a clacking echo. Cas ducks his gaze slightly as a smile curls his lips up in that familiar crooked tilt and he says, “Hello, Dean.”

He knows, in that instant, this is Cas. No one but the real Cas could nail the way that angel always said those two words. There’s a million questions running through his head, but instead of asking them, or focusing his attention on the biggest one of all: How? Instead, Dean yanks Cas into a hug. Wrapping his arms around a torso he had previously embraced in order to carry the dead form of his best friend to his funeral pyre.

Dean is at a loss for words, and he’s a little hesitant to let go, but somehow he manages to find the strength to loosen his grip and take a step back. Those questions still won’t pass over his lips. Dean watches in a sort of daze as Cas hugs his brother. Words are exchanged, but everything sounds muffled, like he’s under water.

Cas looks at him, concern etched into his features. Dean smiles and claps a hand on his shoulder.

Dean’s still kind of at a loss for words. Vocal cords paralyzed by a numbness that feels relentless. A numbness that washed over him when he watched Cas die. When he burned his body, when he said goodbye. For real.

What could he possibly say?

What? That Dean was scared to actually allow himself feeling anything, because what Cas’s return meant was that hope still existed? That maybe there was hope that Mom was alive? There was hope that Jack could get them to that dimension? There was hope that Jack could be good, that he could be saved? That there was hope again?

[evansrogerskitten]

THIS IS AMAZING 🤣🤣🤣

SuperJurassic™

Crack predictions:

Sam Fucking Winchester killing a T-rex with the demon knife because fuck logic

Dean getting adopted and gently placed on a tall nest by a bird because, “he has bendy legs like my other new born children, where is his mom?! Don’t worry weird pink creature I’m here for you”

Sam being highly offended he isn’t the tallest boss around anymore

Possessed dinosaurs!

Exorcizamus te omnis imundus dinospiritus

Dean “germophobe” Winchester stepping a soft mountain of dirt, but it’s actually dried up dino shit

Also that same mofo looking like a model in the middle of bubble fuck nowhere

[found--family]

supernatural dinosaurs

so some monster dino is about to eat Sam and Dean when a raptor comes out of nowhere and attacks it and two more appear and attack the legs as a camouflaged figure emerges from the woods riding a stallion-type-dino and shoots a net that wraps around to muzzle the beast and a few other dino riders join the hunt and continue to shoot nets around the beast and the first rider and another rider approach the boys who have dove for cover and they reach out and each take one hauling them up onto their badass dino rides and they gallop off to safety as the bewildered brothers hold on for dear life and when they are in the clear the figures disrobe their head-wraps and the boys find the likes of Owen Grady as Deans saviour - all scruff and brawn and scars and secret shining eyes - and Claire Dearing as Sams saviour - all firewild hair and moonlight complexion and amazon woman strength and peach lips quirking up into a smile - and the boys just look at each other in disbelief at everything that just happened before Dean says, “Guess we’re not in Kansas anymore”.

-the end-

[having-conniptions]

Supernatural season 13 predictions… kinda

Me, you, Oprah and the Pope: “don’t do anything stupid” is Dean’s way of telling Cas to be safe because he’s worried.

Spn writers: NO HE’S MAD AT CAS BECAUSE GE ALWAYS GETS HIMSELF INTO TROUBLE AND GE HAS TO SAVE HIS ASS

Now, SPOILER ALERT we all know what happened in 13x07. Dean is like “don’t do anything stupid” and Cas walks right into a trap, goes for drinks with Luci and gets kidnapped by Asmodeus.

As far as my information goes, Cas won’t be back until February and I’m honestly a little worried about the episode where he comes back…

Because what we want to see is:

Cas: DEAN!!

Dean: Cas, you son of a bitch!

Dean: *hugs Cas*

Dean: *fighting back tears*

Dean: *whispers* didn’t I tell you not to do anything stupid

Me: *squeals*

But what we’re probably gonna get is:

Cas: DEAN!!

Dean: Cas, you sON OF A BITCH!! You should have told us what was going on! TALK TO US!!

Dean: *is mad at Cas for the rest of the episode and acts all cold and douchey*

Dean: *won’t talk about it until the next episode*

Me: *screams* *throws laptop at wall*

[deanwingedchester]

Calling it now

Patience’s dad is going to die before the end of the season/early on in Wayward

I just imagined Jody, Donna, Alex, Claire and Patience having Christmas dinner at Jody’s in Sioux Falls, and then Patience invites her dad over and they stare at her like

Look at you

with your LIVING dad

thats so nice

So to prevent Patience from being too happy so she can join the clan of miserable wayward sister adopted orphans I think her dad is going to die before s13 finishes. 

[curioussubjects]

I feel bad discussing spn now that’s over but I’ve been wondering. Do you think dean actually meant it when he said “why does that something always seem to be you” (15.03)? Usually people blurt out what’s on their mind all of a sudden even if they didn’t mean to say it out loud. But it comes out because the person either thinks about it or actually believes it. Do you think at one point Dean truly blamed Cas for Mary? I mean, putting 15.09 aside of course.

Why do you feel bad discussing SPN now the show’s over, anon?? Don’t feel bad!

The short answer to your question, in my view, is that Dean was lashing out because of how his unaddressed trauma over Cas dying (cf. 7x01, purgatory, 12x23) gets entangled with him processing his grief over Mary and Jack. Everything is further exacerbated by Chuck’s villain reveal, and the events that lead to Rowena’s “death.”  The longer answer to this question starts with acknowledging that feelings and trauma are complicated things that aren't always rational. And that's the crux of the matter for Dean in that moment he lashes out at Cas: he's not behaving rationally. We know Dean is angry, and historically doesn't handle anger well at all, but we also know, even without 15x09, that what Dean is really feeling is fear. In that moment, Dean is angry, and he's scared. If you watch the scene closely, too, you'll notice that Dean is still present enough to regret saying "why does that something always seem to be you" to Cas. He tenses up, he looks down and only looks up again in stubbornness defiance when Cas says he can't even look at him. Then Cas leaves, which has always been an issue for Dean. However warranted Cas's decision to leave was, it still hits Dean as rejection, too. All this is to say that the break up scene is extremely fraught, and Dean is the type of person who needs time to process events and emotions, and time to process is something he hasn't had since Mary disappeared.

So you ask: ok, cool, but what does all of that have to do with Cas dying, Liv? And here's where I say they have everything to do with Cas dying. I've talked about this before in tags and in other posts that I can't think of right now, but there are common occurrences in the events that have led to the more traumatic Cas deaths. If we think of Cas dying in 07x01, the context for that is as follows: Cas needs to solve a problem, he wants to ask Dean for help, but the desire to not burden him with it is greater, so Cas ends up handling the problem solo, which leads to disaster and also him dying. Or, well, apparently dying. But as far as Dean was concerned, Cas was dead, and he did struggle with it a lot during season 7. Now, fast-forward to s12 and the context of how Cas ends up dead then: Cas needs to solve a problem, part of him does want to cooperate with Sam and Dean to solve it, but he ultimately decides his desire to bring Dean a win, and to shield him and Sam from actions they'd suffer from are greater. Predictably, Cas ends up handling the problem solo, which leads to complications, and him being killed by Lucifer. Cas's death in 12x23 is significantly more traumatic to Dean than the one in 07x01 as season 13 starts with a grief arc that is devoted to Dean's suffering over Cas -- to the point that suffering overshadows even his grief over Mary. Granted, these are somewhat reductive summaries of the events of seasons 7 and 12, but the fact remains that those two deaths were remarkably similar as well as traumatic. 

If you look at trauma theory in regards to literary analysis, you'll notice that a key element is repetition. The story of trauma is a story of echoes, which is partly why triggers are what they are for people who have PTSD. In particular, a situation doesn't need to be an exact replica in order to evoke a traumatic memory. A situation need only be similar enough to the traumatic event to cause a trauma response. Therefore, if we keep in mind that the events leading to 15x03 aren’t exact mirrors of 07x01 or 12x23, but too reminiscent for comfort, then Dean’s behavior toward Cas starts making a bit more sense -- not excused, but understandable. A quick summary of these similarities goes as follows: Cas notices there’s is something off with Jack because of his soul; he decides to investigate on his own to avoid worrying the Winchesters and also because of his own fear of losing his family. He only comes forward with what is happening after something potentially disastrous has happened (Mary’s death). Later, Cas deviates from the agreed plan to close the wound leading to hell, which leads to another disastrous consequence (Rowena’s death). What does this look like? Cas makes a decision to act on his own, and doesn’t tell Dean (or Sam) about it, something goes wrong, someone dies. Notably, here, moreover, is that Cas obviously doesn’t die, but he has paralleled Mary before (when he was dead in s13) and there’s an argument to be made that he would eventually parallel Rowena (with heaven), but that’s from a metanarrative perspective rather than Dean’s, and I digress.

Oh, It’s worth noting, too, that the way in which the arc starting with 14x18 and culminating in 15x03 presents a similar, but not quite, chain of events as those of previous seasons signals the intentionality of the trauma narrative. 

But anyway, as we were: the resonance between the traumatic and triggering events, with the latter being traumatic in their own way, make Dean response in a way that is unfair for the situation at hand, but betray a deeper truth about Dean’s state of mind. Backtracking a little from 15x03, the first instance of Dean lashing out at Cas happens in 14x18 with the (heartbreaking) line: “Then you're dead to me.” At face value, those words are a condemnation of Cas and indicate a complete breakdown of the relationship, hinging on Jack having hurt/killed Mary. There is, however, another angle there, pain simmering beneath the surface, which makes more sense in its direction to Cas: the last time Jack, Mary, and Cas were involved in a tableaux like this, Cas died and Mary was gone. In what is an inversion of events, Mary is dead and Cas is...there, but as an echo of Jack’s birth, to say Cas is dead is a statement of fact: he did die, then. And as he was a parallel to Mary in the aftermath of Jack’s birth (and the rehashing of the John, Dean, Sam drama through Dean, Sam, and Jack), so is he a parallel to Mary here, except in circumstance. Both Mary and Cas had been after Jack. Mary happened to find him first, but Cas could’ve easily been the one to find him. Easily been the one who died. See the issue? This is obviously not to say that Dean’s grief and rage weren’t about Mary herself, but that the situations are entangled and murky. 

Further entanglement and murkiness happen when Cas is forced to change the plan to seal the hell wound in 15x03. We all know, including Dean, that there was nothing Cas could’ve done instead of what he did. But besides the change of plans, there’s an undercurrent of anxiety of the wound closing before Cas makes it out. He does, of course, but that’s the what if, always. And to illustrate the possibility, Rowena sacrifices herself to close the wound. It’s not coincidence that the similarities here are tenuous considering the stress burden from everything that has happened since 14x18 has continued to grow with no respite.

The stage is set then for the confrontation that leads to Cas walking out of the bunker. Dean is clearly on edge, and Cas is in a particularly vulnerable and hopeless headspace:

CASTIEL: Sorry about Rowena. DEAN: You're sorry? Why didn't you just stick to the damn plan? CASTIEL: Belphegor was lying. DEAN: Belphegor's a demon. CASTIEL: He was using us. He wanted to eat every last soul to take over Hell, Earth, and every... DEAN: Yeah, and we would've figured it out... after. With Rowena. CASTIEL: The plan changed, Dean. Something went wrong. You know this. Something always goes wrong. DEAN: Yeah, why does that something always seem to be you?

The reason I went of this long journey to come back to this is so as to make clear that what Dean is talking about here isn’t about Rowena at all, and it’s not about Mary either. We know Dean didn’t really blame Cas for Mary, and that he didn’t blame him for Rowena, either. But do those bolded parts sound familiar?

CASTIEL: Listen. Raphael will kill us all. He'll turn the world into a graveyard. I had no choice.

DEAN: No, you had a choice. You just made the wrong one.

CASTIEL: You don't understand. It's complicated.

DEAN: No, actually, it's not, and you know that. Why else would you keep this whole thing a secret, huh, unless you knew that it was wrong? When crap like this comes around, we deal with it... Like we always have. What we don't do is we don't go out and make another deal with the Devil!

CASTIEL: It sounds so simple when you say it like that. Where were you when I needed to hear it?

DEAN: I was there. Where were you?

DEAN: You should've come to us for help, Cas.

How about:

DEAN: Cas, you can't – With everything that's going on, you can't just go dark like that. We didn't know what happened to you. We were worried. That's not okay. CASTIEL: Well, I didn't mean to add to your distress. I – Dean, I just keep failing. Again and again. When you were taken, I searched for months and I couldn't find you. And then Kelly escaped on my watch, and I couldn't find her. And I just wanted I needed to come back here with a win for you. For myself.

[...]

DEAN : We will find a better way. CASTIEL: You mean, we? DEAN : Yes, dumbass. We. You, me, and Sam, we're just better together. So now that you're back, let's go, Team Free Will. Let's get it done. CASTIEL: I'd like that. DEAN: Great.

“Then, you’re dead to me.” “...why does that something always seem to be you”

Because it’s Cas, and Cas being dead and gone. The tragedy of the divorce arc is that Cas ends up gone, too. However, this time, it’s Dean’s fault for not stopping him. Here, Dean’s fear of Cas dying leads to the anger that ultimately pushes him away. So, yeah, Dean meant what he said, but not in the way Cas took it. Not in the way it appeared as. 

The other tragedy of Supernatural ending as it did is that Dean never got to heal from that trauma, he never got to confront Cas for it, either. Make no mistake, the empty deal is another spiral of Dean’s unaddressed trauma over Cas dying. The beats are the same, and the result is Cas, gone, and Dean, shattered. Sadly, we never got our final resolution, the climatic reunion that would mirror Dean’s prayer in purgatory and Cas’s confession in the dungeon. It’s a story left unfinished. 

[formidablepassion]

I just want to put it out there that I already know that Bucklemming is gonna try to force some fucked up sexual thing onto Jack.

If not in their first episode of the season in their next one. 

I’m gonna be super uncomfortable just like I am every time they force some sexual thing into the show where it doesn’t belong. I am going to want to vomit. 

Just, mark my words. 

[chokememrstark]

Heya ! 😄 I would love to know what your thoughts and predictions for season 13 and Jack the nephilim are! :) After seeing pics from set I think he will be good but maybe twisted at some point? Idk I just find the story really interesting and hope the writers won't trash it. 🤔 Also I love your blog, have a nice day! ♥

First and foremost: Thank you for your kind words and your ask ♥ This is very sweet of you and really made me smile ♥ Now, onto your question…

I honestly try not to look at on-set pictures and things like that, but I do have my own prediction/fear of how this will go, of course. It’s basically impossible not to.

I do think he will be good/neutral in the beginning, siding with the Winchesters and all. I would rather see him as someone completely neutral, who doesn’t side with anyone and follows his own plans, but well. My fear, however, is that they will fuck him up just the same way they fucked up Lucifer in s11.

I apologize for just how long this answer has become and how it does not only focus on Jack, but on Lucifer and Sam too… I put it under the cut to not clutter anyone’s dash. But yeah, this is how I feel the whole Jack Situation in s13… Again, I’m sorry. I got kind of… carried away. A lot.

I mean, after all, Jack has no grudge with humans or anything, right? He shouldn’t really be good OR bad, despite his origins. But, knowing the writers, it will most likely end with Lucifer coming back and corrupting Jack or Jack sticking with the ‘good’ side and fighting Lucifer. I really can’t see a different way for the writers to go after turning his dad into the 0815-throw-away-villain.

Now we are entering fantasy land, with me telling you what I wish would happen. Get some aspirin, because it’s gonna be a bit long…

To be honest, this thought really saddens me and I really wish that Jack could - after all this time - finally be Lucifer’s way out of all this misery. His chance at redemption, you know? It’s seriously about damn time!!! Jack was a blank page in the s12 finale, but I feel like they are already coloring him (thanks, people who post spoilers -.- I fucking HATE that Dx), which just doesn’t feel right somehow. Still, he has to choose at some point. It could finally be the way to end the horror Lucifer’s arc has become in a good way - not only for him, but for Jack as well. Their arcs are just so entwined that I can’t think differently.

Lucifer has gone through enough pain and suffering and I don’t think he would do the same to his son. He knows how it feels to have a shitty father - why would he ever want to repeat the same mistakes God made? No, Lucifer would see that Jack is not his minion or slave, that he is rather an individual and has his own free will…  Jack is his son, not his property. Even after all the hurt and betrayal that happened, I can’t see Lucifer not being proud of this child that is his and that choose his own way.

I do see Jack bonding with Sam in some way, to be honest. It feels natural somehow. Not so much with Dean, because there is too much hate between his dad and him, but with Sam for sure. Sam would see him as a good person, despite his dad. Lucifer doesn’t know what happened to Jack until he’s back - which will probably take a while just so they don’t have to deal with him - so it’s plausible that Jack will find a “surrogate father”. The only rational one for this is Sam, given that Castiel is “dead” at this point and Sam is the first one Jack saw.

I do see Jack bonding with Sam, yes (not in a shipping way tho, everyone can gtfo with that, thanks Dx). Just think about it. Unlike Dean, who prefers to shoot monsters right away and asking questions later, Sam actually manages to understand them and have sympathy. And he canonically felt the same for Jack’s dad, too. He would know that Jack might be Lucifer’s son, but that this isn’t all he is. Jack is basically a newborn, with no one to care for him because his mother died and the only other two that cared for him - Castiel and Lucifer - are dead or gone. It’s in Sam‘s nature that he would want to take him under his wing - not only because he is alone, but also because he knows how it feels to have a father that just isn’t what he would have needed and to be seen as a monster by a world that’s trying to destroy you.

And when Lucifer comes back and realizes that his own son - literally the SPAWN OF SATAN - doesn’t hate humanity and doesn’t want to destroy it… don’t you think it would make him question his motives? I think it would. Because, even after all the s11 and s12 bullshit, the real Lucifer is still there. He’s hurt and hopeless, maybe he has retreated from everything and allowed his hurt and hate to take over, but he still exists. The Lucifer from s5, who wanted nothing more than for Sam to not be his vessel and his brother to understand that fighting was wrong (because he loved him, thank you!) - the one who freaking cried when Gabriel forced him to do what he did - he’s still there. And, even without completely negotiating the things that happened in the last two seasons, it could be a way to finally redeem Lucifer.

I know a lot of people don’t like this idea, of course. I mean, he’s The Devil after all, he is evil and an asshole and did unimaginable evil things, or not? He deserves every punishment and pain and suffering! Hell, let him rot in hell and be tortured for all we care, right? Fuck the Devil!

But, let’s be honest for a moment… If the exact same thing would have happened to you (the one who’s reading this), would you not have acted in a similar way? Your faith and love shattered, cast out of your home and the absolute disgust and disappointment of the only ones you would have done anything for piercing through the very core of your existence… would you have not become bitter? After being locked away in the pits of hell, where you were tortured for eons in a cage that was made just so you would be cut off from everything else in existence, without a way to escape… would you still be a loving and caring being? After losing everything and then clinging to one last, tiny straw of hope for something good - literally the last string of hope and a cry of desperation for justice and understanding - and then having it all shattered again, would you not be angry, hurt and broken?

Yes, Lucifer became an asshole. That’s a fact. He literally became the big bag of dicks that Gabriel accused him of being, but was any of this out of his own free will? HELL NO, it was not! Even “making” Jack was part of this hurt somehow. It was Lucifer defying the rules, the law and doing whatever the hell he wanted because it didn’t matter anyway. Dad says Nephilim are forbidden? Oh yes? Well, fucking watch this, dad!

But, what if there was something that would matter? What if Jack would remind Lucifer that not everything had gone to shit?

Look closely at the s12 finale. What do you see? What is Lucifer’s motive? The thing that drives him again? It’s Jack. I can’t say if he is just a tool in his eyes at this point or not, but it doesn’t matter. Jack is the one Lucifer wants - for whatever reason - and they were ripped apart so brutally before even getting a second together. I’m sure Jack knows who his true father is, he is too powerful not to, but given he is Lucifer’s son he will not let that define him. With Jack choosing his own way - maybe even having Sam show him that humanity is not worthy of hate and extinction - he could be the OH SHIT moment Lucifer needs to realize he doesn’t have to walk this dark path.

I honestly hope that Sam will take Jack under his wing and - even though he is not an actual infant anymore - try to be the father he needs for him. It makes sense, given that, at this point, Sam doesn’t know that Castiel will be back and that his mother is dead and his father is (most likely in his eyes) gone for good. I want Sam to feel that Jack is not evil, you know? Sam still has his psychic abilities, I’m sure of that, and it would be the perfect opportunity for them to show him the way. I don’t think he hates Jack in any way, even if he will be cautious. Jack is a child without guidance, Sam will know that it’s the right thing to do to help him.

And, with Sam actually caring for Jack (and Dean tolerating him for the time being), how could he not learn from them? He is literally a rough diamond right now and Lucifer was ripped away from him before getting a chance to shape him. But this could be good. Because it could give Jack the chance to find himself and then - in probably the biggest fucking plot twist on the show, apart from Metatron’s redemption (still bitter *cough cough*) - lead to the salvation of his own father - the Devil himself. Jack could undo what God has done to Lucifer - maybe not literally, but still grant him the life that was stolen from him.

Just… give me Sam “adopting” Jack in some way, without doing it for anyone else but this Nephilim that has no one in this world and that is #1 on hell’s and heaven’s hit list. Everyone wants Jack dead and he never even harmed a fly, Sam can’t accept that! Give me Sam protecting Jack, because he can’t let another Nephilim die innocently, and Jack growing on him and vice versa. This is what Sam would do and it’s what Jack needs. Jack needs a family that loves him, grant it to him! Hell, even give me Lucifer finding a way back - furious and desperate for blood and revenge - and having Jack step in front of Sam and Dean to protect them, because he actually loves them and wants to? This one single moment could be enough to switch the whole damn show around, okay!

Given the current evidence, I am right with at least one thing here: Jack will not be initially evil. Even Jesse, who was the Antichrist, was not actually evil by default, so it’s not an impossible thing (even if hard to believe). I honestly can’t believe that they will do what I hope they will (that would be too good to be true), but I hope they won’t use Jack as a puppet the way they used other characters or have him become totally irresponsible and evil with no other purpose other than BEING evil.

I know this show is about Sam and Dean, but still. Jack is innocent and the Winchesters protect the innocent, don’t they? He might be a Nephilim and very powerful, but he is not a vicious monster. I don’t even expect a happy ending, really. Just…

Let it be fair, okay?

[thisbelex]

So my sister and I have a theory based on this video and other things misha has said.

So in this video misha says that castiel is in a realm that has been mentioned but never shown. In a previous episode billy said there would be cosmic consequences so what if castiel was thrown into the empty when he died which is why misha said he’s more dead than usual (not in this vid but at comic con i believe) because billy said once you’re dead you stay dead.

So, what if when he somehow comes back (whether it’s jack or god or whoever) he loses some part of him and they can only get parts of him back which is why they say he comes back slowly. Misha also said there would be another person in this realm which I’m thinking is billy or death. Let me know what you guys think! Feel free to add your predictions! I am dying to talk to someone about s13 in a positive way :)

[ashesinyourpants]

It’s been four weeks since Cas’s death. (it’s been a month already, jeez)

This is what I want from season 13:

Dean is in complete denial. He is just like “You said it yourself, Sammy, Cas always comes back” He doesnt burn his body and just waits for him to come home. But then, when Mary comes back in like the second episode and something change (maybe something that lucifer says) and Dean realice Cas may not come back, and THEN we see a destroy Dean. I want Cas to come back like in episode 4 or 5. As human. Things turn to Sam once Cas is back, now Sam is the main focus of everything, focusing on HIS endgame but… As a background we have Dean and Cas being all cute and shit. We have Dean happy, Cas cracking jokes, Dean falling asleep on Cas’s shoulder, Cas using Dean’s phrases and Sam’s response being “yeah, you two are spending way too much time together” The three of them going together to bars and Sam leaving with a girl “I’m going to… i’m..” Sam is too awkward to say he was leaving with someone. “Yeah, yeah… You go, Samantha” Dean cant help but laugh. “Sure?” Sam asked. Dean looked behind his shoulder. Cas was making small talk with the bartender, clearly a little drunk. “Of course” answers Dean, smiling. And we see all of that throught out the half season. And episode 10, we have a really deep heartbreaking episode. Where Cas has to decide if he stays human or not. And we have Dean finally confessing. “You need to choose yourself, Cas. whatever you want, just think of what you want. But I can’t let you go without you knowing that I... Sam and Mom and I love you. No... I love you. And I would rather have you.” And BAM, surprising absolutely nobody, Castiel chooses to stay human.  And then, I really want the brothers to separate… wait, hear me out. My hope, is that they’ll have two differents storylines that would collide in episode 10, where something is happening in Kansas and the other one is happening in the other side of the country. So… The brother’s are all like “Well, we know what to do” And so, Mary and Sam stay in kansas and Cas and Dean go (or the other way around) But, this time is good and amazing, and the brothers are ready to let go of each other. And they have these sappy moment, and they understand and they are genuine happy for each other, and trust each other and promise to text and call and Sam grabing Cas and saying “Take care of him” and then doing the same thing with Dean because of course Cas is his brother too and GOD DAMMIT IM ALREADY CRYING. And I want some sort of time jump after the hiatus (episode 11?) where Dean and Cas have to come back to the bunker after a few months, and they found Sammi being a badass leader with a badass girlfriend (im assuming they’ll have a woman for his endgame. If not, I still want a female badass sidekick) Ugh, can you imagine that? And Sam finding out about Cas and Dean?? Trought out the episode Sam noticing little things like Dean throwing away a paper with a waitress’s number on it, or talking to Cas way too close, or Dean slipping something like “babe, you got the keys?” and inmeddiatly saying “I was talking to the car. Sometimes… I talk to my car” or Cas wearing Dean’s favourite shirt without realizing.

 And Sam being angry at the fact that after all of the time they had talk on the phone, Dean never mention anything. And him being supporting, and amazing and having double dates. And Dean giving his brother relantionship advice (”seriously, dean? It took you like eight years to admit it to yourself”)

Basically, all I’m asking is Dean to be happy. Sam to be happy. Cas to be happy. I want my Team Free Will to enjoy their liberty. (But, I think I’m asking too much. They’ll never do that, unless is the final season)

[theoncomingchaos]

Castiel’s Mystery Companion

So, what I’m getting from all the new info from Comic con is that we are actually going to see Cas end up where ever angels go when they die and he gets a companion through his journey. Considering how many dead angels are probably pretty pissed at him, that sounds like a good idea. Hopefully, he and his companion get a Dante level epic journey. As for who the mystery companion is...can it please be Gabriel or Balthazar? The commentary would be amazing. Hannah and Samandriel are also acceptable. 

[found--family]

HUG NOW please and thankyou

anyone else fear we might NOT actually get a Cas/Dean hug because we’re definitely already getting a Cas/Jack hug - in the bunker - so why would they start with a hug, jump in Baby, drive to the bunker, have another hug.. I dunno, I just feel like we’re gonna get jipped - the ep will start with them already in the car or arriving at the bunker, then Jack and Cas will hug and we’re just suppose to IMAGINE our Destiel dream hug